Comments on: Who killed Schrödinger’s Cat? http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/ Theoretical Quantum Physicist Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:18:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Maythawe http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10619 Maythawe Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:40:23 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10619 Dear Sir, I'm Thai, my spiritual daddy is your books fan. And I'm interesting in Quantum because of. Your names is on my mind for more than ten years. We're very happy to found your website. My daddy always said "There is no reality in the absence of observation", "Obseravation created worldly reality"It is not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent way without reference to the consciousness..in the future the very study of the external world will lead to the conclusion that the content of the consciousness is an ultimate reality”, "only phenomena are real, the world beneath phenomena is not real" We know all that are not his words. But they're mean a lot to me. Thank you so much, From the poor Thai cat Dear Sir,
I’m Thai, my spiritual daddy is your books fan. And I’m interesting in Quantum because of. Your names is on my mind for more than ten years. We’re very happy to found your website.

My daddy always said “There is no reality in the absence of observation”, “Obseravation created worldly reality”It is not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent way without reference to the consciousness..in the future the very study of the external world will lead to the conclusion that the content of the consciousness is an ultimate reality”, “only phenomena are real, the world beneath phenomena is not real”

We know all that are not his words. But they’re mean a lot to me.

Thank you so much,
From the poor Thai cat

]]> By: Freddie http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10615 Freddie Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:56:27 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10615 The Cosmic Consciousness can function independently of the ego-mind while the ordinary ego consciousness needs the ego-mind to function. This being the case,quantum physics is unable to study this Cosmic Consciousness with the ego-mind which can only understand concepts, but Cosmic-Consciousness is non-conceptual The Cosmic Consciousness can function independently of the ego-mind while the ordinary ego consciousness needs the ego-mind to function.

This being the case,quantum physics is unable to study this Cosmic Consciousness with the ego-mind which can only understand concepts, but Cosmic-Consciousness is non-conceptual

]]> By: georgios Rizos http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10588 georgios Rizos Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:25:51 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10588 yes actually what is proposed here, is that everything has a kind of consiousness. I don't disagree with the idea, but i must say that i see 2 weaknesses. one is that when u say that everything has a certain quality, then everything and this quality is a tautologism, this means that the quality loses its meaning... Second, i see that u cannot use quantum mechanics to support this idea. My arguments were removed from this page. This makes me rather sorry, because i really hoped for an adequate answer. As i say in another comment, if the arguments are not strong enough, then the position loses its power. I really dont want this. I like the position expressed here. Anyway... Until another time... yes actually what is proposed here, is that everything has a kind of consiousness. I don’t disagree with the idea, but i must say that i see 2 weaknesses. one is that when u say that everything has a certain quality, then everything and this quality is a tautologism, this means that the quality loses its meaning… Second, i see that u cannot use quantum mechanics to support this idea. My arguments were removed from this page. This makes me rather sorry, because i really hoped for an adequate answer. As i say in another comment, if the arguments are not strong enough, then the position loses its power. I really dont want this. I like the position expressed here. Anyway… Until another time…

]]> By: Deep Majithia http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10579 Deep Majithia Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:16:19 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10579 I'm not a physist or even a scientist of any kind, only a lowly logician. However, applying logic to this scenario, I would have to conclude that what is being suggested here is that the humans, the cat and the hammer all have consciousness which affect the result of the experiment. Infact, I would have to argue that consciousness did not just arise from the mind of any singular object in this scenario, I would have to say that it arose from every particle in the universe. I’m not a physist or even a scientist of any kind, only a lowly logician. However, applying logic to this scenario, I would have to conclude that what is being suggested here is that the humans, the cat and the hammer all have consciousness which affect the result of the experiment. Infact, I would have to argue that consciousness did not just arise from the mind of any singular object in this scenario, I would have to say that it arose from every particle in the universe.

]]> By: georgios Rizos http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10578 georgios Rizos Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:23:16 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10578 well, this is one more weakness of the thought experiment. It has already be mentioned by some scientists. My argument is though, that the presence of consiousness, whatever that word means, is not necessary for the quantum measurement. (After all, we cannot at all know if the nucleus or the hammer has any consiousness at all, but this is irrelavent to my argument)... well, this is one more weakness of the thought experiment. It has already be mentioned by some scientists. My argument is though, that the presence of consiousness, whatever that word means, is not necessary for the quantum measurement. (After all, we cannot at all know if the nucleus or the hammer has any consiousness at all, but this is irrelavent to my argument)…

]]> By: Kevin http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10567 Kevin Sat, 12 Sep 2009 15:08:10 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10567 What if Wigner and his friend are figments of the Cat's conciousness? No one seems to take into account the conciousness of the cat, and what effect it has. Doesn't the counciousness of the cat require quantum measurement, just as we do? What if Wigner and his friend are figments of the Cat’s conciousness? No one seems to take into account the conciousness of the cat, and what effect it has. Doesn’t the counciousness of the cat require quantum measurement, just as we do?

]]> By: georgios Rizos http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10564 georgios Rizos Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:49:27 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10564 One more time on the cat of schrödinger. I realise now, that while we are observing the nucleus we have no quantum measurement. We are just observing the transition of one quantum system to another. The new nuclei will be of course entangled. The transition is determined by probability laws and of course the 3. thermodynamical law (so practically we cannot have a coming back to the previous situation) One more time on the cat of schrödinger.
I realise now, that while we are observing the nucleus we have no quantum measurement. We are just observing the transition of one quantum system to another. The new nuclei will be of course entangled. The transition is determined by probability laws and of course the 3. thermodynamical law (so practically we cannot have a coming back to the previous situation)

]]> By: katumba dickson joshua http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10531 katumba dickson joshua Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:58:03 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10531 i personally just appreciate your work am astudent of physics there's a book of yours that we use realy its a good one. luv u so much dr. katumba d.j makerere university kampala i personally just appreciate your work am astudent of physics there’s a book of yours that we use realy its a good one. luv u so much dr. katumba d.j makerere university kampala

]]> By: Gaylen Moore http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10491 Gaylen Moore Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:09:08 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10491 I addressed the notions of cosmic consciousness in an article I recently wrote called "Quantum Sex" (yeah…it's ok to laugh ;-) I come mostly from the perspective of process philosophy (a branch of contemporary philosophy inspired by A.N. Whitehead). By this way of thinking, the ego-self is a non-substantial set of fleeting experiential stabilities – a subprocess briefly embedded in a larger experiential process (somewhat like whirlpools in a river), which I believe can be understood in a way very similar to what you are calling cosmic consciousness. You can find 'Quantum Sex' if you click on my name, or go here: http://tinyurl.com/lfpnkd I addressed the notions of cosmic consciousness in an article I recently wrote called “Quantum Sex” (yeah…it’s ok to laugh ;-) I come mostly from the perspective of process philosophy (a branch of contemporary philosophy inspired by A.N. Whitehead). By this way of thinking, the ego-self is a non-substantial set of fleeting experiential stabilities – a subprocess briefly embedded in a larger experiential process (somewhat like whirlpools in a river), which I believe can be understood in a way very similar to what you are calling cosmic consciousness.
You can find ‘Quantum Sex’ if you click on my name, or go here: http://tinyurl.com/lfpnkd

]]> By: Murtaza http://www.amitgoswami.org/schrodingers-cat/comment-page-1/#comment-10489 Murtaza Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:09:43 +0000 http://www.amitgoswami.org/?p=512#comment-10489 Dr. Goswami, The above is an excellent one page summary of the main idea in your revolutionary book "The Self-Aware Universe". It continues to fascinate me that if we are truly honest enough to accept the literal message of the quantum world (as depicted to us by the measurement problem/schrodinger's cat), then materialism philosophy breaks down and God/Consciousness becomes the fabric of reality. Simply brilliant. Keep up the great work Sir! Dr. Goswami,

The above is an excellent one page summary of the main idea in your revolutionary book “The Self-Aware Universe”. It continues to fascinate me that if we are truly honest enough to accept the literal message of the quantum world (as depicted to us by the measurement problem/schrodinger’s cat), then materialism philosophy breaks down and God/Consciousness becomes the fabric of reality. Simply brilliant. Keep up the great work Sir!

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